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5253006 No.5253006 [Reply] [Original]

How do you make money? (hard mode : no porn)
This is a very generic question but I love so many aspects of drawing and animation, I have to chose one (online, for reasons). And I'm not sure what fields are not too crowded when you're only, and probably will ever be, only average (I don't even aspire to superb technique, I myself like simpler stuff and perosnality rather than awesome technique even if I can appreciate it).

Webcomics? (Webtoon? How do they even pay?)
Animation? (is 2D still valid? Or is it just my childhood and you have to do 3D now to get work)
And what niches are good to look into?

Also, use this thread to talk about any related stuff and business in general if you want, might as well.

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5253397
Quoted By: >>5253448

>>5253006
>(hard mode : no porn)

>> No.5253431

>>5253006
>Animation?
Animation is definitely a standout on twitter, but personally I'm not too sure if it's worth the effort to turn into a business as opposed to plain 2D art. I will say though, animation is a REALLY useful tool for improving your 2D in general. As for 3D, not too knowledgeable about it besides it being easier in some ways I think? I dunno.

>And what niches are good to look into?
Honestly anything you're interested in would make a good niche to specialize in. It helps if it's something really specific (such as art for an obscure game or something) as it's easier to be a big fish in a small pond. But in general, please, for your own sake, only specialize in something if you enjoy it.

In general for business, consistent output and goodwill are key. Think of McDonalds or Burger King what you will, but when you walk into those establishments, you know exactly what to expect when you order something.

>> No.5253448

>>5253397
Now do you have the "you need to draw realism before you can draw anime" meme?

>> No.5253456

in the last 6 months I have done

-Album release artworks
-Logo for small business
-Typography and other designs for a clothing label
-Tattoo Design

the best advice I ever got was to strengthen connections to communities and niches that you are already interested in or have some kind of connection to (aside from art related stuff)
That can be as general as science or as specific as competetive yoyoing - those people that share your passions are your potential clients maybe they have projects that you would never have even thought of but if youre known in those circles then people will come to you because personal reccomendation always trumps anonymous online portfolios.

Expand your social circles, hell maybe take up a new hobby but always, always introduce yourself as someone who does creative stuff even if it isnt your main income.

>> No.5253498

>>5253006
my gf makes $800+ a week doing tattoos and shes been at that studio less than a year.



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5252984 No.5252984 [DELETED] [Reply] [Original]
Quoted By: >>5253343

I lost the megaupload link for the massive library of art courses. Does anyone have it? Please.

>> No.5253343

>>5252984
https://mega.nz/folder/3IsEQA7Q#NMVYBUtPXJpRyrYuUz1NrA

here anon

>> No.5253348

>>5253343
wtf this is dolphin porn

>> No.5253414
Quoted By: >>5253466

>>5253343
this link is taking forever to load so i'm going to assume it's some shady shit. just tested out another mega link and it loaded quickly.

>> No.5253466

>>5253414
It's a massive library anon. Don't be impatient.

>> No.5253471

>>5253343
What the fuck why would you post that shit here



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5252980 No.5252980 [Reply] [Original]

I managed to understand how to draw the torso pretty adequately, but the limbs are a problem. The muscles are hard to understand, and every book just has a bunch of ball forms attached to the bones that don't look like how it looks in real life even for bodybuilders. Also Proko just throws a fuckton of medical terms like nigga what the fuck are you teaching?

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>> No.5254855

>>5254274
/pol/tards as well, anon. What has this board become? Where shitpost and politics are talked about than art on a bloody art board.

>> No.5254872
Quoted By: >>5254873

>>5254844
dont forget to pay taxes

>> No.5254873

>>5254872
I don't have pay taxes as long as I don't exceed 8000z? per year

>> No.5254875

>>5254274
6 fingers is marketing deluxe

>> No.5254931

>>5254140
please i actually want to know what youre imagining



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5252977 No.5252977 [Reply] [Original]

If I am going to do a comic using Clip Studio Paint, would you recommend me to do the panelling myself instead of using the default ones that come with the software?



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5252965 No.5252965 [Reply] [Original]

Are these books memes or are they actually good?

>> No.5252974

>>5252965
I completely forgot deltora quest was a thing, I actually think I have a copy of this book lying around somewhere.

>> No.5252999

>>5252965
Skimmed through it, it has basic shape block-ins for each of the creatures, and progressively adds on details + whatnot. It has a couple sentences of description for each step. That's about it.

>> No.5253051

>>5252965
I have them, they aren't even memes.
Only really good for entertaining children by getting to recreate an image in the book.

>> No.5253092

>>5252965

That book? Or "how to draw (x)" books in general?
Some of the how to draw (x) books are good, but theyre better described as "how I render (x)".
The most valuable ones tell you how to generate ideas for your chosen topic or how to use a specific medium to achieve certain effects. I just got a book about how to draw ghosts and vampires and its pretty decent for what it is. Had a some trad tutorials on how to handle smoke, transparent objects and paint gore.



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5252936 No.5252936 [Reply] [Original]
Quoted By: >>5253954 >>5253989

is this any better than before? I think it is but I am biased and don't know for sure. you guys were giving me tips on metals, are these metals decent? please ignore the female form I haven't studied anatomy in 4 years since I started so I know it is off. Textures OK? Critique? Thanks

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>> No.5253954

>>5252936
you're amazing anon! 100% talent

>> No.5253977

There're too much details on the crotch area than the rest, so the audience eyes immediately draws to that area. If drawing attention to he hip area was the main point of the piece, then well done

>> No.5253989

>>5252936
Your background is great, but piece would look great if you had ambient lighting and the reflection of the background in metal. add grey to the blue skin and tiny of purple to armor in areas closest to the BG

>> No.5253993

maybe try /beg/

>> No.5254172

>>5253070
it's pretty bad
i can see what you were going for but your skill level is too low to get there



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5252926 No.5252926 [Reply] [Original]
Quoted By: >>5253130

I want to be an illustrator or mangaka.
What schools in NSW Australia can I attend to get good?
Should i go to a TAFE course or uni?
Are there other options?
I know the basics of art and people here consider me high /beg/.

I don't really want to spend too much money unless it's covered by the government through HECs. I have a software development bachelors already but I'm not sure if I want to do this all my life plus i can't find any jobs for it and have been searching for a year.

>> No.5253107

>wanting to be a mangaka in the west
Cringe

>> No.5253130

>>5252926
>mangaka
Give up.



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5252866 No.5252866 [Reply] [Original]
Quoted By: >>5253421 >>5253819

I need to send a payment to an artist, but he doesnt accept PayPal, so far we were working with amazon cards that friends bought for me because amazon freeze my accounts, but now I cant find anyone to buy the card for me
What other way of anonymous payment is out there?
Im dying to pay because I want more art
Pls no cryptos

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>> No.5253270

>>5253188
Does it work outisde USA? he wont scam me he is a legit person

>> No.5253421
Quoted By: >>5253787

>>5252866
Sending money is not Artwork/Critique related.
Try /g/ or /biz/.

>> No.5253787

>>5253421
shut up

>> No.5253796

Actually Crypto, though. This is actually your solution

>> No.5253819

>>5252866
>but he doesnt accept PayPal
So what payment method did he used before this?



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5252796 No.5252796 [Reply] [Original]

Do you like Moku?

>> No.5254035

>>5252796
Sneed

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Quoted By: >>5254537

>>5252796

>> No.5254061

>>5252796
its okay i guess

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5254537

>>5252796
>>5254057
Why are fans of these series so autistic?



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5252732 No.5252732 [Reply] [Original]

Anyone took this guys course



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5252728 No.5252728 [Reply] [Original]

Online classes for a year. Gotta identify as a girl and apply.

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5253206

>>5253144
>>5253161
i guess you just 41% then

>> No.5254395

>>5252744
nta but based

>> No.5254730

>>5252728
Submit a picture of yourself in a dress and you will get it.

>> No.5254760

>>5252728
why are you triggered so easily?

>> No.5254794

>>5252728
its for ngmis anyway go back to loomis kid.



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5252719 No.5252719 [Reply] [Original]

I tried to look for it in google images, saucenao and even tineye, but I dont find anything. Does anyboy knows who this artist would be?



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5252700 No.5252700 [Reply] [Original]

>i want to become a concept artist
>i want to become an illustrator
>"no i cant draw from observation"
/ic/, you all crack me up

>> No.5252704

that is a very old meme, buddy
i mean that is one STINKIN old meme
I mean, a meme like that. i wouldnt know the first thing about doing something with a meme like that



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5252667 No.5252667 [DELETED] [Reply] [Original]

WHY ARE YOU ALWAYS CRABBING AND PUTTING EACH OTHER DOWN
DON'T YOU KNOW WE CAN ALL SUCCEED!?

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>> No.5253123

ngmi thread

>> No.5253140
Quoted By: >>5253179

>>5252813
>sugarcoat
why cant you accept that someone genuinely has something nice to say without being insincere. do you perhaps lack that capacity in yourself?

>> No.5253179

>>5252797
>>5252844
niggers just go back to facebook/leddit/twitter.

>>5253140
because you can get that literally anywhere else, go back.

don't spread your disease here. we already have an alarmingly high number of trannies, underage and libtards here compared to other boards. i think i came across maybe like 3 posts defending trans rights and it made me fucking sick. i'm a returning oldfag and i can't believe the state of deterioration on this board.

i'm also willing to bet that the jelly crabs that you speak of are actually the retarded trannies you guys love to defend. anyways, reported thread for low quality and saged

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5253195

>>5252710
And /beg/ called me crazy when I said that some people post shit specifically to demotivate other users.

>> No.5253204

>>5252710
Actual mental illness



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5252584 No.5252584 [Reply] [Original]

Why You Should Copy Anime:
https://i.imgur.com/zNDsyF0.jpg
https://youtu.be/t_IODIIYAe0

**Strive for quantity AND quality.**

Anime Studying:
>Copy anime references exactly and draw them from memory. Use illustrations, screenshots, anime figures, 3D models, etc.
>Don’t copy recklessly. Use construction, color theory, and other fundamental concepts to rehearse a drawing process that you can later easily manipulate for original artwork.
>Post all of your anime studies. Post even when you’re told not to. Create an art community that actually draws and improves together instead of just talking about it.
>Number your attempts and link to your previous posts.
>Critiquers should lead by example by posting their studies.

General Anime Style Discussion:
>Questions about achieving certain styles/techniques/compositions etc.
>Drawing methods, study habits, resources, tutorials, tools, software, etc
>Be specific and try to post a sample of your study attempts before asking for help.

**Draw copies from good anime styled references to mindfully up our mileage, internalize appealing aesthetics, and learn from each other’s processes and knowledge.**

Japanese Book Collection:
https://mega.nz/#F!UcNG2AiT!jeyWwP1gtQXXz6R29o5bgw!sddDyarD

Recommended Resources:
https://pastebin.com/KJM0cgMu

/mmg/ - Manga Making General:
>>>/ic/mmg

Previous Thread:
>>5233855

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>> No.5253897

>>5253690
No, I followed every single one of them

>> No.5253920

>>5253893
>big into fandoms
>likes drawing fanart
>self-taught, like everyone else here

Kusotori could do with some anatomy practice if she really wanted to elevate to Priestess levels but she has a good grasp on how she wants it to look aesthetically and probably drew a fair bit on her own time. Probably too busy now, though. Wish Sui-chan still had time to draw again.

>> No.5254058

>>5253341
fuck if i know dude, its a fking mystery

>> No.5254059

>>5253564
trace for general feel then copy/redraw, compare and see whats lacking, repeat

>> No.5254792

>>5252611
Caught you watermelon motherfucker!



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5252570 No.5252570 [DELETED] [Reply] [Original]
Quoted By: >>5254027 >>5254516

>Talent isn't re-

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>> No.5254027

>>5252570
why you keep doing this threads moron?

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5254039

>>5252596
ur right this is a masterpiece

>> No.5254056

I KNEEL TALENT CHADS

>> No.5254516

>>5252570
>6 years
Normal progress of someone seriously drawing

>> No.5254519

>>5252595
I love this fucking meme



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5252522 No.5252522 [Reply] [Original]

how do you paint? like genuinely how? my lineart is reasonably good but the instant i try to slap in some color and light, my work turns to shit. any suggestions on books or courses that will teach me painting/rendering?

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>> No.5252607

>>5252600
i see

>> No.5254392

>>5252522
i like this picture op

>> No.5254393

>>5252593
I would reduce the opacity of your lineart and draw the colors beneath that layer.

>> No.5254499

>>5252522
I was in the same situation last year. Couldn't paint for shit and left everything at line art stage.

Aside from practicing what helped me is literally finding the right brush. I started using CSP's oil brush and right away I improved like x5 instantly. The fundies were there I just had to find the right tool.

I'm still shit with colors though.

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5254891

>>5252522
its just your brush bro

nah seriously get better at drawing, and learn the planes of the head, and study masters



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5252481 No.5252481 [Reply] [Original]
Quoted By: >>5254843

This have alot of creativity in it can anyone tell me about some art cheats and hacks.

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>> No.5253061
Quoted By: >>5253507

>>5253034
Ruruwanaku Tsurudake

>> No.5253507

>>5253061

i google it but dont can find him

thanks anyway

>> No.5254706

>>5252511
I KNEEL

>> No.5254843

>>5252481
>NO RULES ONLY TOOLS
no anon, this is creativity.

>> No.5254851

You can’t learn to draw until you understand the philosophy of drawing.



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5252425 No.5252425 [Reply] [Last 50] [Original]
Quoted By: >>5255015 >>5255190

>"Just keep drawing, that's the secret I promise!"

Why do artists with clout lie /ic/?

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>> No.5255009

>>5254973
yeah they are just looking for a shortcut. Also beg's who dont understand that it takes time, and they can't just draw for a couple months and totally get it

>> No.5255015

>>5252425
This is disingenuous advice. BUT routine drawing does help improve your skills because you're more willing to explore alternatives.
If you already find drawing a pleasure and it's a part of your daily routine you will definitely improve over the joyless fucks that fill /ic/.
Though, there are a lot of little tricks about getting anatomy and perspective down, and if you don't know them, or how to properly apply them you aren't going to improve.

>> No.5255016

>>5254919
There are people on this board who ask things like "should I do still lives or is it a waste of time?" and "should I really be drawing from observation if I just want to do cartoons?"

>> No.5255190
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5255190

>>5252425
Well have you tried drawing?

>> No.5255205

At this point I would like people to assume that everyone knows that practice is important and is doing it, and explain what areas to practice to achieve certain an specific results.

Like how people know they need exercise but might want help coming up with an effective workout plan.



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5252416 No.5252416 [Reply] [Original]

Hello, I am here to show off my artwork.

https://cecealove8.wixsite.com/djworld/post/selling-the-old-fashioned-way



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5252374 No.5252374 [Reply] [Original]
Quoted By: >>5252395

How do I do lines and textures like these????? With lines I'm mainly wondering how this orange/red glow around the lines was achieved, and the texture. Like, look underneath her chin. How is this effect achieved? I know it looks like some screentone, but I don't know what type of screentone, or what drawing software can do it easily. Also, there's this jpeg like artifacts around lines, and I'm wondering if that's what also gives the lines some of that glow.

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>> No.5252388

try with CSP

>> No.5252395
Quoted By: >>5252500

>>5252374
Honestly not too knowledgeable about brushes but it looks like for most of the lineart they use a kinda brush pen-like brush with texture to it.

Adding glow to lineart can be done pretty simply. I use Krita and you can give lineart layers an outer/inner glow via layer styles, dunno what the equivalents are called in CSP or Photoshop or whatever you use.

For the tones in the shadows they probably colored those in all black and then used a lighter brush with screentones and probably pressure opacity. Also probably used a big blotchy brush for the dark areas.

>> No.5252500
Quoted By: >>5252574 >>5252778

>>5252395
I also use Krita, that part about layer styles was actually really helpful, it looks like something promising and worth experimenting with. Thing is, it applies the effect on the whole layer, whereas here the glow is only in few places... Now that I think about it I guess this effect could be achieved by making a copy of the lineart layer, changing it's color to dark brown, adding the glow, then blocking it out so it only shows through in some places but not all(so in this case only near her eyes and breasts, and leaving everything else as pure black).

As for screentones... the guy's a jap so I guess I'll just have to see what CSP has to offer. Krita has kinda limited selection of those.

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5252574

>>5252500
tried it, pic is what I ended up with. Seems alright, just needs some fine tuning and it'd be just like the one on the left.

>> No.5252778

>>5252500
If you want something free for screentoning, medibang paint has a lot of them and it's pretty easy to use.



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5252347 No.5252347 [Reply] [Original]

Drawing fetishes that don't line up with your own doesn't make you any better than the degenerates that commission it. Being that desperate already makes you a complete failure and you probably should have taken another path in life.

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>> No.5252478

>>5252442
Mcdonalds doesn't fit in the budget

>> No.5252529

>>5252347
Why do you care what other people do or fail at?

>> No.5252533

Based. Money isn't a merit of success in the art world.

>> No.5252629

>>5252347
I agree. I know I'm still pathetic for other reasons but I at least refuse commissions that I don't like.

>> No.5253226

>>5252347
>drawing icky things is bad
Literal child like mentality.



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5252335 No.5252335 [Reply] [Original]

Besides Twitter, how do you discover new artists?

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>> No.5254924
Quoted By: >>5255154

>>5252335
Twitter sucks for finding shit, its all just fan art from japanese artists with 100k followers. Best in my opinion is Insta because it actually pushes out new people to follow instead of pushing your art down after not getting 10K likes in 15 minutes like twitter.

>> No.5254932

>>5252360
>do you not have your own thoughts? Can you not discover new things on your own?
New things to discover by artists you've never heard of are posted to Twitter everyday.
I doubt those artists will get the same exposure posting their digital artwork on a monitor outside their front door.

>> No.5254942

>>5252335
i don't care about any other artist besides me.

>> No.5255023

>>5252335
Boorus. They have the best tagging system and in turn the beast search feature.

>> No.5255154

>>5254924
twitter is right up my alley cause of the anime art, instagram just has normie art



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5252331 No.5252331 [Reply] [Original]

Talent is necessary but not sufficient to be good at art

>> No.5252342
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5252342

The sky is blue, but sometimes it's gray when it rains.

$2.53 is not enough money to buy a $3.00 cup of coffee.

Making threads to say dumb shit like it's profound is not drawing.

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5252343

You need talent to create something that will stand the test of time
You don't need talent to draw animu coom, just work.



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