/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>i'm a raw beginner and i can't execute the literal hardest task in art

>>4478239
this

>>4478187
Learn to draw properly and get good.

Don't start with serious anatomy, it's a meme. Start with cartoony stuff. It gives you the advantage of having more freedom and flexibility that is very useful for beginners. After you have done cartoons for a while you will be able to just naturally do more interesting poses, body motions and perspectives. After you've done that everything else will become much easier.

>>4478187
dude just add an ass in the right leg lmao is literally the only thing that's wrong in your draw, if you did it is great as fuck now just digitalize it and it will become a very good piece

>>4478239
that's a literally copied Morrigan and added a different hair and colors in SAI

>>4480644
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>>4480547
Yeah it’s in procreate. I just use the MaxU600 Series pencil in the same way as I would use something like a conte pencil and then I just use the basic smudge tool in the same way as I would use my thumb to blend charcoal by going around the form

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>>4480644

>thread killed in a day
>not by pure shitposting
wew

>>4480149
This one? It was my attempt to draw a shortstack baphomet. I'm pretty bad at giving things perspective and making them not look flat, I think the fact that I'm using solid black on white for most stuff makes this even a harder job for me since I'm just a beginner. I'll be glad if you have any tips to give about that.

>>4478074
/thread

>>4478155
I can't really fix it, I just have to learn to live with it and be productive anyway. Drawing helps me a lot to feel better, but it's just hard to find the energy for it when you always feel like shit.

>>4478124
>don't have a vent thread and a stupid questions thread up
It makes absolutely no difference, even when those are up there's at least a couple "I'm too depressed to draw sadwojak.jpeg" and "how do I draw like this" threads literally every single day, the jannies should just delete those on sight but you know how it goes.

>>4478171
Alright then, be /fit/ and take care of your health anon. Don't let your art gains go to waste.

>>4478181
Damn man. I wonder if the jannies were active here in 2012 or earlier when this board was actually trying to get good. Did posts like these existed? Wtf am i talking about we have an archive lmao.

>>4478074
"stop making threads to complain about your own worthlessness"
on /ic/

>>4478042
I'm erect right now, thanks.

>>4478042
Where can I buy this? Is it expensive?

>>4478042
you just have to feel it. it's not an intellectual thing. you will know you're feeling the form when you're drawing and it mentally feels like you're sculpting a 3D surface in a 3D modeling program. you have to sense the forms as you're drawing as if they're real things.

>>4478042
jesus those are massive

>>4478595
https://crownpeaks.com/shop/

>>4477994
Csp all the way

>>4477994
Just buy a 100 bucks laptop and never connect it to internet loser lmao

csp > ps

>>4477994
I pay the whopping 50 or so bucks for the full creative cloud because fuck my wallet. I get my full use of the most recent photoshop w/out any hassle. There's definitely dumber things to spend $10/month on.

Photosh sounds cute.
I will have a slav kid and call him Photosh.

>>4477956
I haven't done a single piece in 4 months since I started, only exercises

>>4478192
Gmi. Probably already mi

>>4477956

Drew this some inktober, will post the reference I had, tried to use similar style.

>>4480936
Here's the reference

>>4478318
>look at me i'm pretending to be retarded

>>4477917
If you want the real answer, don’t draw hard dark lines to indicate wrinkles or leave them out if possible.

>>4478318
The expression created by the lift on the cheeks is not a sign of age you retard. That said it’s very difficult to stylize attractively outside of realism. The worst way to do it is with simple lines though. I’ve seen it done well a few times by making the line work a different, softer color than the rest of the line work though.

>>4477917
Ran some tests. I think the middle right looks best. I'd say no more than two lines are needed, and they should be soft or part of the shading rather than a hard outline. Cheek lines are much harder, never draw those.

>>4478543
nice work. I'm inclined to agree. top right could perhaps work if there were more expression in the eyebrows.

>>4477915
what is color theory to you? Learning the triads and complementary colors, etc? Okay I know those but I don't get how to use them to make something look nice. Is it what emotion certain colors convey? Those seem to be different based on where you read it from. I just don't understand color theory or at least researching it doesn't help me pic colors and when I try using colors that theory would tell me its right, it just looks off.

>>4477903
>omg he's like... totally ripping off pacman!!

>>4478528
MCdOnalds car

Just feel the colors you imbecil.

>>4477903
OP, there's more to character design than just colour scheme. Spiderman and Mario have similar colour schemes, but you'd never be able to confuse them because they look completely different. Consider shape and form while you're designing your character. Compare silhouettes, etc.

>>4477861
>draw bad portrait with no understanding of fundamentals
>try to hide the fact that it's bad by calling it "abstract"
This is probably bait anon but this is detrimental to your progress. Even to do abstract art (which you did not) you should have at least a fundamental understanding of regular, non-abstract art, because when you actually know how form, texture and color works, only then can you properly abstract and distort it. Picasso, Bacon, whoever - they all were perfectly capable of doing good, realistic portraits if they so pleased.

>>4477850
Art needs to primarily be about creating shit you want to create and not about improving at art. If it's just about improving then you are going to have a really bad time, speaking from experience.

>>4477850
I know this sounds pathetic but I'm in the same boat I just can't sit through tutorials or books.

What is the best paced course for me? I'm a beginner

>>4477850
> I quit video games since yesterday
I don't have enough smug anime girls to express my contempt. Sorry, anon, but I can't take anything you wrote after this seriously.

Maybe you can draw something you like, for example a kitten or an icecream cone.

>>4480717
I'm not good at coloring yet but i'll start trying it this month. Thanks for suggestion anon

>>4481132
Yeah i'm opening up to that mindset alot. Art is actually fun to me again.

>>4481150
Read:
>>4478967
>>4478953
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>>4481176
Just draw anon. Another anon somewhere around here also said that jumping into books and courses without a clear goal in mind on what you want to improve at makes stuff boring for you. Just draw, realise you need to improve on something, get a book/video anything on it, then apply it to your drawing. I'm starting on Peter Han's Dynamic bible since drawing bodies is complex for a beg like me.

>>4481163
Lol that's fine. But seriously, it's day 3 of me quiting videogames and i haven't thought about them until you said it at all. I depended on them because i wanted to improve at art instantly and needed the instant gratification since i couldn't get that from art and associated art with a bad feeling since it wasn't fun for me.
Now art is actually fun thanks to other not only helpful anon's replies, but other threads about how people are improving fast in 3 years and that's inspiring to me. I realized you can have fun at art and still improve fast. Let go of your fear and worries and just draw something fun and ez man.

Now if you excuse me i need to draw dead trees lmao.

Also please let this thread die i got my questions answered.

>>4477726
Faggot, nearly got me there. kys.

>>4477726
I put a hex on you. If you are larping you’re fucked.

https://4chan.org/rules#global3
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/:
>a. Troll posts

>>4477749
based

>>4477726
cursed thread

you've gone to far

I don't even want to check if it's true or not, with this coronashit now seems possible, fuck you OP

https://4chan.org/rules#global3
>You will not post any of the following outside of /b/:
>a. Troll posts

>>4477612
pic related is $86,882,500 in comparison

>>4477691
>As it stands: $0
>If it were porn: $20
>If it were porn of a popular character: $30
>If it were fetish porn of a popular character: $50+

>if you are popular 200$

u forgot to add it

>>4480207
No, yours is just undecutaded bad advice.
I already explained how pricing of commissions works in this post >>4477732
Stop spouting BS.

>>4480216
>I already explained how pricing of commissions works
Thank god a professional like you took the time out of his busy life to post on a fucking mexican basket weaving board and educate us.
Thank you.

>>4480219
You are welcome.

>>4477713
I like it a lot

>>4477605
>>4477649
>>4477651
Sycra uses screenless and doesn't give a fuck, the tool doesn't draw you do.
>just get the cheapest chinese tablet bro, it works for me
BASED

a better pen won't make you draw better why would a better tablet?

>>4478190
t-thanks anon

>>4477807
you write like a redditor. stop being a faggot

>>4478213
I agree with the sentiment but why use Sycra as a source of authority of all people?

>>4477716
when I dropped drawing and started lifting

>>4477591
lol what are you doing wrong that after 6 years it still sucks?

bruh 2 months is nothing

spend less time brainlessly drawing and more time reflecting on what it is that youre missing

>>4478645
exactly, find out what you suck at and then spend a month or two just doing that, and then continue to do that when you get back to what you normally do.

>>4477570
>eget loomisus

>>4477577
>>4477580

just draw

Medieval Crabisus.

>>4477542
Yeah thanks for the link and your post in general

I know this is completely irrelevant to the thread but how the fuck do i improve my hand eye coordination? i know i need to draw more and shit but is there any other method to learn faster?

>>4479631
you just keep practicing
when i look at my art from when i first got my tablet (been using the same one since 2014) i can't believe the scribbliness. doesn't even look like it's by the same hand. now i draw pretty smoothly. Sometimes I have to turn on stabilizer, but not always.

>>4479637
Well actually my hand eye coordination was really good a few months ago because I used my tablet all the time and I hated drawing on paper, however I broke the tablet at the beginning of this year and I went 2 months without using a drawing tablet until I got a new one 2 weeks ago and relearning it feels very awkward rn.

>>4479120
Kek based shitty ESL autist

I want to learn digital so I can start painting, is the Wacom Intuos S good for starters?

>>4477299
Your statement is false.

>talent = iq
>talented artists have high iqs

funny how anons ITT say this but never seem to back it up, you'd think they'd be the first to be posting the iq scores for like kim jung gi or dave repoza or whatever.

>>4481785
Your post is cope

idk this feels like a gross oversimplication. there's a lot of factors that go into someone being artistically successful.

eg.
>what school they went to
>what media they consume
>how much they practice
>who they were influenced by
>teachers, friends, family
>their culture surrounding art
>the environment they grew up or worked in
>their self motivation
>and maybe, talent

what I mean to say is that you can't really control all of these factors to create 'the perfect talented artist' so just take what you have and make the best out of it instead of giving up so easily. just do your best, dont worry about the little things

>>4481797
You improve at art by thinking good, IQ is how good you think.

Very simple brudder.

With a drawing

Sure, how much are you willing to pay? I can do different media.

>>4477199
Pay? Nothing!!

>>4477203
I hope your dog gets COVID.

>>4477139
Fuck you

>>4477139
choo choo

>>4477093
moo angry

>>4477084
Nobody spoonfeed him.

I'll give it to you if you ask in the right thread