/ic/ - Artwork/Critique

>>4478058
Kek. Aim for something more ambitious. Don't let the crabs grow on you. If it takes you 3 or 5 or 7 years to get as good as that guy, then so be it, the time you spent to get good isn't written on your portfolio Anon.

>>4480737
OP guys sources are the fundamentals; form, perspective, anatomy, composition, and color theory dont change just because you're japanese.
>>4480760
Nice setup are you trans? Some very competent artist may be able to learn with one hour a day but most people are stubborn and have to learn the hard way, trial and error and you don't get there very fast with only one hour a day.

>>4475229
people who get discouraged by stuff like this are fags, threads like this remind me why i practice and motivate me.

>>4481393
What's wrong with being a fag?

>>4480573
>That whole fucking page.

My perspective teacher would have cried.

>>4475212
git gud kid no one said itd be easy

>>4475212
all the dumb coomers that have invaded /ic/ these past few years are everything that's wrong with the board right now

>>4475212
Start Vandruff's course, you can't skip perpective or you art will always look wrong.

>>4475843
I think that the main issue are people with ADHD who cannot and do not want to enjoy the process of learning.
They want immmediates results without putting any effort in it, always looking for shitty shortcut or dumbing excuses for being lazy such as:
>Who need fundies ? You only need to trace over thousands of times to succeed !
>using references is cheating, you'll become a xeroxfag !
>trust me anon, it's all about iq !
>you can't draw anime if you're not asian !

OP should start by watching this
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLqWX7onVmU

>>4475212

Read "Framed Perspective" instead.

>>4475235
Same

>>4475207
Really captures that trans and dyke vibe

>>4475235
how do a 4chan loser practice a hobby or a passion?
>go to the passion/hobby's board
>shitpost on the board the whole day
>vague feeling of belonging to a community
>wank and go to bed at 4 am

it could be /ic/ it could be /sp/ it could be whatever board, you find the same type of useless loser on every board shit posting posting frog about "relatable" shit.
late milenial and zoomer are the perfect slave waggie consumer, the capitalist world ever created they don't have a fucking soul.

>>4475207
This is actually super funny, because what happened between left and right is she went to Calarts.

>>4475207
I wonder how RCDart is doing now. ever since that unintentional racist caricature of Finn from star wars, she's been mostly inactive on the internet.

>>4479194
???

???????????

>>4479163
It's getting creepy desu. ooboo should buy a gun.

good night pig I love you with all my heart

>>4479151
Oh
It helps me think

>>4479163
Big OOF

>>4475150
What I'm seeing is a lot of people start a comic on pixiv or twitter and then it gets picked up for some sort of web serialization.

>>4475371
Yes, that is the case of artists like nagabe which started uploading art to pixiv and eventually got to digital magazines. But there are also cases of people who just wanted to do something and uploaded their stuff for sale.

So as long as you keep drawing manga and learn some japanese (which you would need if you wanted to get with a magazine in Japan anyways) it's not all over yet.

>>4477257
That's the idea.

Move on to the three-quarter plates next and then do some of the linear figures. The figures are some high IQ shit because Gerome or whoever did them plays with line quality to indicate source of light and pinched/compressed forms, and shows some muscle/tendon separation at times as well.

In hindsight, one of the nice things about these basic linear constructions of the eyes, noses, mouths, heads, figures, etc is they are the drawing equivalent of what the Asaro head is to sculptors. It's a relatively simple "design system" that establishes some important planes while maintaining a good sense of overlap/form.

I've yet to come across a system that is equal to this other than what the old renaissance masters and people like Vilppu do. Stuff I see today is dog shit compared to this.

>>4475130
i repeat: web meme is god. that is all.

>>4477769
So i shouldn't follow the course plate by plate? Thanks for your input by the way

>>4477958
IMHO you're doing well so far, so I don't see a need to do all of them. The book has some 100+ plates. Most of them are boring and ugly. Pick the ones you like.

The key is to be a bit obsessed over accuracy in these early ones, to make sure shit is really lined up, even line quality if you can match it. Use tracing paper if you can and put it over the reference to see how well you did it.

The step after this is to go back to real life. Pick some objects in front of you, and try to apply these "block outs" to the objects, paying close attention to angles, distances and the way forms overlap. This is why I said it's a design system, it's got a range of applications.

There's nothing wrong with exploring other systems, ie. Hampton or Vilppu or whatever. Pick the one that makes the most sense to you, or combine what you like from each one as long as you think it looks pleasing to you.

So think of this as training your observation skills so you're not limited to dive into things you want to do. Real life is a massive visual library so once you're not struggling to see things clearly, the rest of the fundies fall into their place like dominoes.

If you're into perspective and anatomy, you now have more than enough to pick these up. If you want to do tighter rendering, refer to the plates in the book that are rendered. If you want to do figure or anime or capeshit, you're well on your way.

People diss the bargue course but when I see how people can't tell proportion/perspective issues in /draw/ and think things look "fine" just because they are rendered out, a part of me gives up inside.

>>4478035
Thanks, good advice

>>4477498
Try to curb that emotion, anon. That's probably why no girl (whore or otherwise) wants to fuck soneone who is as emotional as a bitch.

>>4479400
Stop pretending to be a chad, we all know you’re a virgin.

>>4479347
For sure, guy wasn't exactly super convincing. Though honestly it would be pretty pathetic even if it was legit

>>4478435
Not at all friend, I feel inspired and spoiled! haha
Really didn't expect such great comments to my not so good drawings.
I expected others to post photos of women they have also drawn,
But the response to my art has been phenomenal! thanks again and hope you have a good day.

>>4475174
Somebody has to draw it

1 of 2

>>4475700
There can be multiple versions of the same fragment

>>4475725
Nobody cares
Besides, majula is the best hub

I can allways just dice it up, no need to do just three pieces. :)

>>4475747
>artistic collaborative expression
this is just client-speak for "psychically do exactly what's in my head without me telling you"

>>4476005
Pretty much but i dont have drawing tablet so thats why i wanted to see you guys taking a crack at it.

Looks like shit a very poor brazilian would buy and not use because they quit art for the 5th time

>>4474973
I heard it's actual shit.
Just buy a Huion 1060 or Xp-Pen 01. Those are fucking optimal and anybody can get 70$.
Just suck a dick one and a half times.

>>4474973
Haha what is Kaguya Luna doing in there
Look at her
Haha she's cute

>>4474985
dude, thats too real

>>4474999
The wacom shills got baited him.

>>4474999
The wacom shills baited him.

>>4474914
of course not. better tools won't magically make your art any better
what's your current problem? pyw

>$40,000 art tuition didn't beam artistic talent directly into my brain

>>4475063
kek literally my friend.
Our fellow engineer bro also is much better than him and just a hobbyist.

back to beg

>>>>4474795

Threadly reminder that no artist ever has been nor ever will be as based as based Michelangelo.

>>4475311
>painted his critics in hell
lol yep, here's one.
Notice also the ass ears and the snake biting his dick. kek
based as hell

>>4475384
he still made him jacked as fuck though

>>4475561
>an elderly 16th nobleman achieved better gains than an average /fit/izen

>>4474807

"Via a FB group I'm in. A guy who used to work in the movie FX industry made himself a mask for the pandemic..."

>>4476626
I love him.

>>4478034
it's a trick, you can just google colored lineart

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mrUqoraQTMY

first result for me, already acceptable

>>4478095
Yeah, that ain't bad.
Keep doing more stuff like that. Just don't get complacent and keep trying to actively improve by analyzing your mistakes and finding solutions, forcing yourself outside of your comfort zone, etc.

>>4477974

you don't need a vpn for private trackers usually, never got an email for it, especially for one so niche as gfxpeers

seeding's not really risky, no, and cgpeers is too full of iranian autists who explode into jihad when they see a titty to pose a threat

for the sharing you can just seed no need to post original stuff
the first 5 gigabytes are free, then after that your required rate goes up to 0.6 (for every gb you download you must seed 600mb), it's not hard to achieve, i have 224gb/177gb download/upload without any original stuff

>>4478126
there's also this dude that takes the stuff from cgpeers and places and uploads it to traditional download sites but it's a PITA to use

http://online-courses.club/the-art-of-colour-and-light-with-marco-bucci/

the courses are basically the same

>>4478154
>>4478154
>>4478154

>>4474757
I don't go sketching -> inking -> ok it's locked in place now. I let the drawing evolve over time, gradually refining the lines to see what looks good and what doesn't, I could make significant changes to the structure even after starting to color. At the very end I'll do cleanup, I guess that could be considered my "inking".
I'm a shitty /beg/ though who doesn't know what he's doing so don't take my advice.

>>4474757
You can do everything twice but that's like more of a formal illustrator thing.
I like to attempt everything on scratch paper, then do the final image on a fancier paper.

there is no hard and fast rule, you just need enough information for yourself to use as reference with the final inked drawing. Some people just need a sketch for layout, some people need a sketch for where individual lines will go.

For me personally when I work in lines.

I have 3 stages. first stage is a very rough sketch with primitive shapes and perspective, and some rough markers for stuff like clothing, facial features, etc.

Then the next stage, I go over that rough sketch with a real sketch that will represent the actual lines I will make in my inked sketch. I won't go into as much detail or use things like line weight, but apart from line quality, this sketch will be pretty close to the final inked drawing.


Then the third stage is to trace over this sketch with an actual inking brush that I designed specifically for inking, the lines will be more or less the same, but I will introduce line weight, more fine details in the lines, and add last minute details to anything that I missed in the second sketch.

>>4474847
Also I used to just have the same feeling as you, and used to do all three of these steps in the same layer, just erasing and building up to a final neat sketch. This is totally viable too.

At least get the "hard to figure out" parts drawn solidly. It's not fun inking away until you get to the hand in perspective and having to wrestle with that for two hours.

>>4474743
The only threads you should concern yourself with are the resource threads, only thing good about this board is the resources

I like the videos too.
and the off-topic thread aswell.

>>4474743
I like blogging in the car thread.

>>4474727
>>4474728
Oh please, get that sticks out of your asses. It's just a drawing. Back to church you shota fuckers.

>>4474734
Oh don't get me wrong, bro. I love loli just as much as you. I just don't like this current janitor patrolling my posts. Now....

get to it janny you get paid $9/hour for a reason

>>4474734
I know it's just a drawing. I asked what is wrong with your brain. So?

Why are the cats about to fuck a 5 year old?

>>4474722
From the thumbnail it looked a bit like they're squeezing cum out of her into the cup; that was more interesting.

And the child has an ugly face right now, this hair style at the moment makes it look like she's bald, cap on the right cat is unproportionally long, the room itself seems to be too big which gives off weird feeling, the chair looks traced and slapped on the floor with disregard for perspective and facial expression of the cat on the right make it look really sad.

Keep it up OP! I can't wait to see it finished!

>>4479232
That comic is too based for this world

>>4474859
why do you need originality when you have the ideal

>>4474859
But Anon...you can do the same with "western" art or concept art too.

>>4479232
This.

>>4474717
>italian anime?

Don't you mean annironi?

>>4474710
>>4474678
Mental Health > 20 bucks.

>>4474678
>reply to this post in 24h or I will cancel the order.

>>4474710
Ye, he hasn't paid the artist yet so no big deal anyway.

>>4477991
>only 20 bucks
wtf

>>4474710
Then why pretend to be interested when OP sent the references? Wouldn't it just be easier on both of them if the artist said upfront "No, this is not subject matter I am comfortable drawing, sorry" or "Sorry but I am not learned enough in drawing [x] to confidently take on this project"?

>>4474657
"he who eats alone is either a beast or a god"

>>4475655
>55
>crabs?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JPfT9Pn-28

>>4474657
art was a technology like science or agriculture.
go out into the woods and make me a realistic painting that lasts for a few hundred years.

"oh i'll just make a cave painting"
yeah? with what? what berries do you use? how do you process them in order to create paints? can you find a proper medium for a pigment without googling it on your phone? now imagine you're your uncle George who can draw only a stick figure. this shit didnt com from nowhere

Thousands of examples of art with those techniques being seen almost every day. Even if they don't formally study the concepts, they're still seeing the concepts constantly.

>>4474657
>Am I missing something?
Quite a bit. A lot fo ancient eras could and did do representational work, but chose not to, as an aesthetic or because of art's function in their society. Ancient Egypt is a good example of this, or the Aztecs. Their formal art was usually we think religious or ceremonial, because that's what survived, but we have a few examples of work that is outside of that style, that are more advanced. Artists in the middle ages didn't forget how to draw, or not know how, they just didn't require it to be exact and perfect.
This is yet another good reason to go to school for art, for the art history classes. You're making a lot of assumptions about the history of art, with no actual knowledge of what actually happened, and how each era and civilization approached and used art.

>>4476202
Adds texture, most people are lazy and just slap it on uniformly though.

>>4476202
Digitalfags do anything they can to make their sterile paintings look more "interesting". Otherwise they look to boring, since everything looks so unnaturally "perfect" when painting digitally.

>>4474666
I don't know. The part that pisses me off the most is that it adds noise inflating the file size without really adding any additional information.

>>4474641
is there any way to generate the same effect but in painttool sai?

>>4480212
>a literal algorithm can make a painting look natural while keeping the precision of digital art
tradcels on suicide watch.

Whats Dondon's stand

>>4480529
I'm self taught too and everything I draw looks like shit

>>4480670
Ive been going at it for 5 years me drawing everyday. Thats how i got here but theres still a long way to go to the top.
There was a period where my art drove me up the fucking wall and i almost gave up.

>>4480647
Dondon's stand is called: "the watchtower"
Its a quad barrel portable mortar launcher. To use it you aim ay the sky and use the scope.
By using the scope you get a birds eye view of your location. This helps when targeting your enemies.
It has an automatic mode that will shoot anything that moves within its birds eye view except for the user.
There are two firing modes:
.one where it shoots one misile at a time with a one second delay between shots
.one where it shoots four misiles at a time
with a three second cool down after each salvo.
It does not need to reload.
To counter it i guess you should walk slowly or use really good camouflage. Or you could trick it into firing at Dondon somehow.

>>4474604
stiff.