is time really really an illusion?
>>12746582 No
>>12746582 yes
>>12746582 Time is memory and recall. The concept of time doesnt exist without memory.
What have you tried?
>>12746667 >The concept of time doesnt exist without memory That's just stupid. Who's memory are you talking about? Individual lifeforms?
>>12746582 Things either happen or they don't. No such thing as TIMEEEE. It's a measurement we use to see how long something takes.
>>12746582 From the photon's point of view - absolutely (pun intended).
>>12746680 >It's a measurement we use to see how long something takes If time doesn't exist then how are we able to measure it?
Time-space isn't, but simultaneity is.
It could also be said that the past and the future are an illusion and that only the present exists. Causality gives an illusion of future, and collection gives illusion of the past.
>>12746582 Time exists in the same way cloudspotting exists. Sure when you look at clouds there can be elephants or some shape in the cloud but there's nothing aside from that. Time also works similar as time merely keeps track of movements of particles. There's also a hidden problem of "movement of particle" thats associated with problems of motion or how we look at it.
>>12746582 it's a cube
>>12746667 So, if every living thing dies, the universe will pause?
>>12746582 Our perception of time is constructed by our consciousness, so in some sense we live in our own simulation. The answer is a maybe.
I wish I could perceive time like the aliens in Breakfast of Champions, be able to see everything all at once as you wish, like flipping through the pages of a comic book
>>12746582 Once your state of awareness reaches higher plateaus you will experience transience time slows way way way down. You are present It's the speed of change in state, relatively
>>12746582 God, I wish I was him.
relativity says no
>>12746667 So the sun comes up at a certain time only because we collectively remember what time it is suppose to come up?
>>12746680 >how long something takes. No, the duration something takes to happen is time, not the measurement itself.
>>12746582 it's a concept