/tg/ - Traditional Games

>>77875386
>wait... there are people that GM non-homebrewed games?
Technically, no.

see image

>>77875386

You don't understand anon.
The Fun Police batters peoples' doors down if they don't use Tasha's.
They get dragged into the street screaming and flailing, leaving a trail of strewn dice and cheeto dust, and are executed on the spot.

>>77875386
>>77875934
Dilate

>>77876197
No u

here

https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1jzXQay3PSbPVBAATmuqPLHBvrghhq3bQ

in Imperial Armour Volume folder
Voidships doc, Battleship range section

>>77875499
WOW, hold on. Regardless of battleships question, do I understand correctly, that it's a whole fan-driven unofficial 2nd edition of a game and I'm just now making myself know it exist???

Anyways, really found what I was looking for just where you said it is. Thanks a lot, have a 40K internets.

>>77875577
its based on Dark Heresy 2 rules or something
ordo discordia might be able to answer questions
have fun

>>77875368
Also your GM 'burrowed' those jellyfish creatures from Age of Wonders: Planetfall, those things are one of the neutral factions that exist in the game.

In my experience the best way to kill a magical realm is to just not engage with it PERIOD.
>I rub my baby bump
Not important so ignore it
>I have the jellyfish in my womb
Keep it hidden so no one tries to steal it
>The jellyfish is moving!
We will cast a ton of spells on you to try to pacify the creature, any agitation could destroy the world
The GM is going to have to do work to keep that magical realm as unsexy as possible, but this will be a group effort.

>>77875438
>>77875640
No, "uncomfortable" is not a power word.
She might say that your discomfort is your own problem due to your sexism, that you have no right to police women's bodies and that it's your own creepy nature for eroticising her.

This is actually pretty close to people complaining about women breast-feeding in public.

I'm not trolling or hyperbolising; I genuinely think there is a chance a young woman may get extremely offended by this.

OP may want to test the waters with other players first, others might think it's perfectly acceptable.

>>77875640
It's not a power word. Assuming the stereotype is true, she doesn't give a shit about people being uncomfortable, only if her sensibilities and wims are being transgressed. If you're uncomfortable, well you're a sexist pile of shit so who cares about your feelings, bigot. But of course if she's uncomfortable with you, everyone in the room must destroy the thing that is you.

Double standards are fun, aren't they?

>>77875368
By asking them
>b-but how
If you are this socially inept, you don't play and you don't have a group

>>77876904
I'll never forgive netflix for cancelling the dark crystal.
I know its not thread related, but damn, they will have to work hard to get me to not shit as much on them now.

>>77875209
You know, the more I think about it the more I'm liking the idea of a L5R miniatures game. It will probably be a while though, Atomic Mass Games had their workload essentially quadrupled over night without even starting new projects. I wonder what the scale of combat would be? Part of me hopes for large, full army scale just to keep it separate from the Marvel and Star Wars offerings (at small and medium scale respectively)

>>77877086
>It's a fun watch if you take it with a bucket of salt.
I know there's going to be a vocal exception to prove the rule, but as a broad generalisation I'd assume anyone here isn't looking for historical accuracy as much as cool movies, plots, and character ideas.

Four hours left to vote for the first part of the first part

>>77878568
Lmao he's locked his social media. Here's one of the games of the Indog prodigy. SEA monkeys are so embarrassing
https://www.chess.com/live/game/8414047315
Good on this guy for destroying the cheat. Especially loved the knight maneuver.

>>77878739
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voiceless_alveolar_affricate
It's not just the guy's name, it's how you pronounce every "c" in slavic languages.
Definitely makes more sense than sometimes pronouncing it as "s" and other times as "k".

>>77879014
>It's not just the guy's name, it's how you pronounce every "c" in slavic languages.
i didn't know that! I leaned something new today, thanks.

>>77879054
If you listen to slavs speaking in english, you can sometimes notice them still using this sound instead of the proper english pronunciation. Like pronouncing "central" as "tsentral".

>>77858211
many people consider the situation a disgrace and complain about how poorly firouzja was treated. but for some reason no one seems to complain about how wojtaszek was treated since, after all, he was in the exact same situation other than not being in contention for first place in the tournament. i suppose that makes a big difference to some. yet he behaved respectfully and didn't throw a temper tantrum like firouzja did

yes, the tournament organizers made many mistakes, starting with the concepts in the pre-tournament start version of the rules and regulations (which were apparently modified after the tournament had started) and then the procedural mistakes of the arbitrators as they were trying to move firouzja and wojtaszek to another table. oh well, hopefully the tournament organizers, in this and other tournaments, have learned from this fiasco and they will give more thought to the tiebreak procedures for other tournaments

>>77876450
>LotFP is true osr

>>77876503
>no, it isn't, its adventures are mostly level 4-7

>>77876659
>what are true osr adventure levels?

>>77877203
>4-7, mostly

Well, OK, then.

>>77877830
You don't know how to read and you're fucking retarded. Kill yourself.

>>77875114
what´s so bad about being undead anyways?

It sounds chill af!

Also you´re retro-tard trying to make another bait-thread, so go back to your board now.

>>77877486
This guy has two arms wtf u talking about

>>77875114
Your own tastes.

>>77874951
>not having a rust monster shopkeeper who trades them the things he finds for coins and magical weapons to eat

>>77874951
>spidercunt
>friendly or helpful encounter
nice try, demon.

>>77874951

so your watching the spider iskai to.

>>77875235
correct.
also Dragon > Spider

The disposition and morale tables know best. Sometimes the monsters just want to live their lives or get something done. Sometimes they're bloodthirsty psychopaths. I just don't know until I roll, and neither do the players. Praise be unto the Tables.

They are not required. But when I'm playing a friendly game I still want to make both forces even.

>I spent $500 more than this noob 12 y.o. why can't I fiedl my whole collection against his first unpainted kit?

>>77877506
Nailed it.

Age of Sigmar flopped because of no points at launch.

CAAC are worse than WAAC prove me wrong.

>>77874908
>Required?
No
>Good for the game?
Yes

>>77875130
What do you love about them

>>77879020
So a chapter master is equivalent to a general?
>>77878978
Use your words.

>>77879032
All vaginas are politically valid you bigot

>>77875803
Kek, britfags will be begging to come back in a few years when their entire economy is in the shitter

>>77879191
I dun'know anon, brits have done some really stupid shit in the past, also some pretty smart things as well. Lets see how it plays out.

the fuck is /qa/?

>>77874780
>>>/tg/chess
currently: >>77846844

>>77874785
Used to be for questions and answers about 4chan meta, like "where's an appropriate place to post about x?".
Now it's /s4s/ 2.0 I guess.

>>77874738
When they talk about breastplate they are referring to coat of plates right?

>>77874603
Can I get some pictures of cataphracts

>>77875029

>>77875102
Not that anon, but as fair as I'm aware Cataphracts didn't ride camals.

>>77875727
Yeah. It sound like some total war-ism

>>77874845
Even text only fiction has a lot of unbelievable magic to it, even in supposedly mundane settings. The Great Gatsby, To Kill A Mockingbird, The Art Of The Deal, and many more examples besides.

>>77876875
>>77877012
>>77876918
>>77877074
>>77877176
Step aside.

Mushi-Shi,
Planetes,
Last Exile,
Kinos Journey
Trigun
Desert Punk
Hellsing Ultimate
One Punch Man
King of The Hill

>>77877564
Good taste especially desert punk but he said 3 anon as in three you insufferable idiot

>>77874537
Why would you even want to play the game you signed up for?

Like if you cancel and get run out of the Jojo game, sounds likea win-win to me.

>>77874537
CUT. YOUR. LOSSES. AND. RUN.
You really think those red flags aren't going to transfer to your original game?

>>77874813
>Who pissed in your face and shat in your cereal?
Nobody. I just hold the earnest belief that OP being killed is a small but real contribution to the goal of furthering happiness and thriving within the cosmos.

Have you tried not reading Dnd?

>>77874813
you did

>>77874477
>>77874674
>>77875071
>>77875305
>>77875350
nu-/tg/ sucks so much ass it isn't funny. You people are complete buzzkills

Sorry anon, we just don't care about your fanfic blogpost

>>77874338
you are aware that slime is a fetish corect? and acid is one of the easiest to get a resistance/immunity for, right?

>>77874392
If you are particularly deranged it can be both

>>77874313
Easy, I don't play with fetishists.

Just have something unfortunate randomly happen before anything goes far.

>someone strokes the dragon's dick
>oops, the dragon is shot and killed with a ballista by someone fearing you were defeated
>repeat over and over until they get it

>>77874313
Because all of my NPCs find my player's characters disgusting and become irrationally violent at the mere mention of intercourse.

>>77868831
It's only the first third.

+2 GMT fag here
Thread died off right before woke up
5:30
Can somebody cover 00:00-5:30am please

>>77874999
Sorry lads, I can bump once in a while, but not always, lives complicated now... I will try to do more.
>>77876883
Same timezone for me. It just dies off very too early in the morning for me.

Depends, does contempt count as feeling?

>>77874157
Enjoyment, disgust, feelings like those are just proof you're engaging with the game. I'm looking for something a bit "deeper" than that, feelings that don't go away once you pack away the dice and drive away.

>>77874140
I feel something in most sessions. That kind of comes with the territory of roleplay. Most recently, I felt contempt, respect, paternal care, and disgust all in one session.
And this was all while playing D&D. Despite what the storyshitters want to tell you, it turns out having more control over how your character acts makes the experience more immersive.

>>77874371
Do you play online?

>>77875109
Fucked up the link this one should work.
>>77875109" target="_blank">https://www.dropbox.com/sh/5dkzgw3cn842eyw/AACivEvWTEODXQgsjBPsHv8wa?dl=0>>77875109

>>77875159
I pushed through it.

>>77875194
What helped you grok it? Could you give me a quick rundown?

>>77875203
Hands on experience. Play a game of it and you'll either get filtered completely or get a taste for it. Having other people helping you figure shit out at the same time also makes a big difference.

>>77873964
Guru Guru would make an amazing setting to play with friends. Pure creative magic. And Kukuri is the cutest thing in this world.

>>77873805
Within the realm known as Creation's Forge or the Furnace, there are great crystalline cities that surround massive anemone-like trees bearing glossy liquid fruits, tended to by humanoid phoenix-like beings called Jyoti. These trees are the source of all souls. Manasupatras live within the cities to help guard these places from interlopers and thieves from elsewhere. No one else is allowed anywhere near the trees or even the cities within the supremely hostile realm that acts as the source for all stars and suns.

It is a great secret to the vast majority of all peoples and not even many of the gods truly know where souls come from.

>>77874448
Interesting, how often does god die, because unless there’s reincarnation, or a god produces a lot of souls, there’d be a shortage pretty quickly.

>>77873805
Depends on where the wind is blowing from

The God’s planet is one big mass of souls/ether. They sprout like plants then a god might cut it loose because it’s like a weed in his garden or some realize that souls=potential worshippers, etc. then it floats away until it materializes somewhere.

>>77873805
Souls do not exist, though most in setting characters think they do. This has led to some interesting exploration of what this means when it comes to traditional fantasy concepts, which usually root their base assumptions in souls being a real thing.

Not at all, it's called faux-medieaval stasis for a reason. The number behind ruling king's name went up a little, that's about it.

>>77873770
ESL niggers should get the fuck off of english speaking boards.

>>77873770
They only saw the early years of technological revolution. They're far out of date. Furthermore, the home nation of 2 of the characters has been eradicated through genocide, war and powerful weapons. Common life is straight out a film noir, a cynical post-war public... except technology ranges from mid-century to new millenium in inspiration.

You know, I was actually wondering about something similar recently. I started a campaign set in the late 60s, but I kind of want to do a time jump, not 100 years, but a couple decades. Things that were set in motion during the 60s should come to fruition. Minor problems that they ignored turned out to have major consequences, major enemies who they fought have been struggling to recover from defeats handed to them by the PCs, and war has ravaged the planet.

I was thinking about somehow getting them trapped in a time pocket and just moving the timeline forward a couple decades when they come out. Is that too railroady? Their actions have had consequences, but for the last couple decades the world has moved on without them. Perhaps they've entered into legend in the meantime, but the players won't really get much say here.

>>77873892
My english is better than yours, mutt.

>>77875172
Tolkien...

>>77876703
I absolutely despise Tolkien Elves. Say what you will but literal immortal Mary Sue demigods is not everyone's cup of tea.

>>77875485
AC combat is dogshit, doing it better doesn't change that

>>77873383

I think Warcraft does really great Ogres.
Stupid, brutish, hungry, fat, strong, but they've got an aptitude for magic and if they're allowed to get their shit together can become violently functional.

>Machinarium
>Robot people

>>77873287
I love this Poorhammer shit, Make a Stompa!.

>>77873287
How long does the average ork take you?

>>77875110
usually between ten and twenty minutes, the cart took half an hour

>>77873287
this is based as fuck, you gonna make a whole damn army like this? love it

>>77873287
The basedest thread on this board right now.

>>77875269
>Because of external pressures, not because of any kind of new discoveries that changed our understanding of it.
[Citation needed]

>>77875202
>bottom surgery
Is ultimately harmful because it deprives people of hope. Before it they can hold a distant hope to be a woman, afterwards they realize they'll really never be one. Have all the tit surgery and hormones you want, just don't cut your dick

>>77875279
OK.
>https://www.psychiatry.org/File%20Library/Psychiatrists/Practice/DSM/APA_DSM-5-Gender-Dysphoria.pdf
>DSM-5 aims to avoid stigma and ensure clinical care for individuals who see and feel themselves to be a different gender than their assigned gender. It replaces the diagnostic name 'gender identity disorder' with 'gender dysphoria', as well as makes other important clarifications in the criteria.
Social stigmas are an external factor, anon.

>>77875271
It must be nice to assume that anyone who disagrees with your wacky bullshit is a right-winger.
Newsflash: a magical gendered soul that makes you follow gender roles (even if those gender roles don't match your sex) is not a progressive idea.

>>77875202
>I don't see people complaining about limb amputations like they do about bottom surgery.
Because limb amputations are a last resort when less damaging treatment is ineffective.
Before the discovery of effective antibiotics, amputation was the only recourse for dying limbs, yes.
The difference between amputation then, and cosmetic genital mutilation now, is that you've elevated the former into some kind of "right" to bringing a person into accordance with what they "really are", instead of what it actually is; a stop gap method to try and prevent further harm until a better treatment is found.

But people like you have made sure that a better treatment will never be found, because the act of trying to cure gender dysphoria in a way that isn't validating the individuals gender identity is defined as transphobic, and thus, violence.

You have made amputation sacred, and in doing so, damned penicillin as sinful before it was ever found.


>But you act like your interpretation of right and wrong IS the true moral absolute, and judge others based on it
No, I act as if there IS a moral absolute, and I attempt to discover it. The fact that you confuse the two is a grave indictment on your character. That you call it an "interpretation" just shows how far down the subjectivist, relativist rabbit hole you are. That an empirical deduction of moral truth CAN be wrong, does not mean that it MUST be wrong.

>>77875271
Don't be a reductive cunt; there's a difference between defining what is right and wrong, and structuring law to be in accordance with right and wrong, and enforcing it. The ideal law would incentivize right and punish wrong, but law in and of itself is not moral.

>>77872820

Imperial Chinese slavery mixed with medieval serfdom.

Prisoners of War (mostly orcs, goblins, kobolds and other beastmen but humans fight each other as well) fight in the gladiatorial pits or work in the mines or digging canals etc. They're not allowed to have kids so inherited slavery is not an issue, if they do breed kid would either be killed or kept to be trained to do the same work as it's parent.

Humans and demi-humans with debts can sell themselves into bondage in exchange for their debts being paid (usually they sell themselves for a bit more than just their debts though). The length and severity of the slave contract varies but doing dangerous work like gladiatorial combat or mining tends to have a shorter contract length/pay more for the same length contract. Most debtors sell themselves as household workers or labourers to a noble or landowning house. Their children are considered to be free, and valued household slaves tend to have good marriages arranged for them and can be treated fairly well depending on master. While the children are free they and their descendants are forbidden from holding an office or becoming noble for four generations.

There also exists a class of unfree peasant, they have more social rights than slaves (particularly they have better marriage prospects and their descendants are able to become nobles and officials) but they're tied to the land and are unable to leave the land without their lord's permission or passing an exam to become an official.

>>77872820

It's a necessary part of my use of magic. Slaves make for good, semi-sustainable blood bags so that I don't have to sacrifice my own to smite you. If you're in Human territory though I'd advise not bringing exclusively Human chattel, despite them being the best for that sort of thing.

I run campaigns in different eras of my setting as well as locations, so elements of slavery can change drastically from campaign to campaign.

One about the chaos in the wake of the fall of Elf-Rome which had a Servile War against it's no-sense-of-right-and-wrong wizard rulers as one of the many contributing factors to it's downfall. Some of the lands still practice slavery, but closer to "servant underclass" than "livestock" with a modicum of basic protection under law, similar to real roman slavery.

Another is in a Renaissance-ish merchant port city with legal serfdom, which has been beginning to allow contracts to become more predatory in the noble class' favor in the wake of all this sudden merchant upward mobility.

One is set in the colonies of the New Continent, where the head of one of the colonies wants to claim independence through force and establish chattel slavery.

While they're presented as part of the world, being a big foundational pillar with a lot of complicated elements that make it too big for just five people to hack away at and fix in time for supper, I've never presented it as anything but a cyclical buildup to or result of the inevitable conflict that emerges from Hegel's Master-Slave Dialectic. If slaves have it kinda OK right now, the deal will only get worse as the years goes on. The resentment and dehumanization from both sides will escalate to violence.

Ideas of an inherently genetically inferior or servile racial underclass have never lasted very long when slave rebellions end up being led by Paladins and Clerics (both of which are more rare in the setting) of said race saying their liberation is the will of the almighty. because of this, the short-lived races are the ones that keep coming back to all these ideas because all the other times it didn't work were centuries before they were ever born. Most Dwarf cultures believe in only sentencing criminals to labor, and elves haven't since the fall of Elf-Rome.

>>77872820
Everyone is in a way slave to dragon kings.
Elves are the race with most freedoms, they mostly do bureaucracy and trading. They are the most numerous race in the world, but they are docile, lazy and decadent. They are useful plebs who keep order in the realms with their numbers alone.
Dwarfs are settled in the frontiers looking for ores.
Orcs and goblins are not savages, they are used for tax collecting and minor skirmishes between the states, if they are slaves, they work in the mines or row the galleys.
All of these races were settled to the continent by the dragon kings from another continent. The natives are the real underclass:
Gnomes are too advanced to subjugate, so dwarfs are used to invade gnomish undergeound fortresses.
Halflings are violent tribal savages who are used for most back-breaking labor and pit-fighting, they are seen more as animals then as a sentient race.
Beastfolk (every other race such as satyrs, tortles, minotaurs) are seen as natural servants of other races. Their kingdoms were dostroyed and now they must live either as semi-nomads or slaves in the cities.
Humans have not yet arrived, but they are the least advanced race, they live on the fringes of civilization and are basically orcs.

>>77872820
if defeated people have no value how do you disincentive genocide when races that cant interbreed war over territory

>>77878456
It’s simply looking at what the deamon has in game and then converting it over. HP, AC, damage and hit + are dependent on CR which is your choice

>>77878589
I made YHVH a 2 phased boss, like the game. The CR is around 17ish for this, hence the big damage and hit mods

>>77878435
>the boss is too screwed by action economy to present a challenge
Now this may be more or less of a problem depending on the system; it's laughably bad in D&D and clones, but not as bad in others. But generally, if there's 4+ character turns between each of the boss' turns, the boss will just not be able to keep up.
The scatter-damage solution from the previous point may help against that, but it might still not be enough. Here's some other solutions you can homebrew (if they aren't already part of the system):
>>Give the boss reactions, either numbered each round or with a random chance to be triggered (ex. thrashes when attacked, giving a tiny defense boost and possibly pushing away and lightly damaging surrounding enemies);
>>Give the boss a 'split' turn, where he gets two turns each round (for example, each split turn is either move and moderate attack, or move twice, or big attack, or move and prepare for a later super-big attack);
>>Give the boss some very weak minions? Maybe spawned by the boss himself?
>>Give the boss abilities that can block or mitigate a character's action (ex: a mind pulse may stun a different character every round for just one turn; or it might be grasping tentacles sprouting from the ground; etcetera) ((Use this very judiciously, you don't want the same player to have nothing to do for more than one turn))
Obviously it would be unbearable to apply all hese things to the same fight; generally speaking, just one or two should be enough, especially paired to the solutions to some other points in the list.

>>77878435
>>77878676
>The fight is a stationary punchout
This happens when the character just engage the boss on their terms and the fight remains stationary from there on - the characters are exactly where they want to be and dish out damage and support as they want, and the boss just stands there attacking the nearest target.
This is neither very engaging nor very challenging for the players, and it just turns into a countdown to whose health pool goes down first.
The simple solution is to make the boss move.
If it's big, allow the boss to barge through characters, roll away or dive into them. Make him push away or knock down character every time he moves. Give his attack the risk to push or throw hit targets at a long distance. Let him throw bomb spells with a big predictable AOE and a delayed explosion, or end a turn by charging up a superlaser pointed in a very obvious direction, so that the characters will have to scatter in their turns or suck it. Make him run (or fly or teleport) away to get the breathing room to either recover or charge up a big attack, so that the party will have the choice to either pursue to keep the pressure on him or take the chance to recuperate themselves. Don't just have him flail at the party's frontline fighters - let him jump or barge past them to isolate someone squishier every now and then.
Keep the action moving, use the entire arena, and ensure that the characters have to move tactically as well, either to keep pace or to scramble away from danger.
This of course while giving them the time to do that. For example, don't make the boss pounce on the squishy priestess at the *start* of his turn and brutalize her immediately - make him move at the *end* of his turn, after having attacked the frontline, so that the sorceress gets the time to run away with minor damage (and a heart attack).

>>77878435
>>77878890
>the fight is either over too soon or is a neverending slog
As mentioned when talking about action economy, the boss can take a lot of damage in a turn if all the characters manage to attack him and roll decently. It's very common for boss fights to be a lot shorter than one excepts, and that one feels like they should be, exactly because of that.
The apparent solution would to turn the boss in a huge HP sponge, but it generally just makes the fight into a boring slog.
My suggestion to avoid the two extremes of "two-turn KO" and "tiresome HP bloat" is to simply act on the characters instead of the boss.
Make the boss tough, but most importantly, make sure that the characters can't just sit on their ass and shoot out their max damage output every turn.
This is already largely solved by the mobility suggestion from my previous post: keep the boss moving, don't make him just stand there and take all their firepower. If the characters surround him, make him move to a better position or pursue an isolated archer/spellcaster, all while dishing out some trampling damage/knockdown risk to the others.
If a sniper has gotten comfortable at their optimal safe distance, have the boss rush them. If the party has established a good position or formation, do one of the aforementioned delayed AOEs or just a turn of rampaging to force them to scatter.
If not all characters can attack every round, or at least not focus all their actions on optimal damage every round, the fight is going to be more dynamic and engaging while also not turning into an endless slog.
(However, let your players have nice things too. If they make a smart plan and get a good position, let them at least enjoy it for a turn before disrupting it)